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December 11, 2009

Popular wisdom is often unpopular and often wrong, but what the hey. The popular wisdom is Andy Dillon can’t beat John Cherry for the Democratic nomination for governor.

Here’s why the Dillonites reject that notion: (1) Cherry has only 20-percent support in the polls, which means he doesn’t even attract the Democratic Party base that makes up about 35 percent of the electorate; (2) 54 percent of Democrats are undecided; (3) Voters are fed up with career politicians and there is nowhere to hide Cherry’s 25-plus years in this town; and (4) Cherry is linked at the hip to a very unpopular governor and her policies.

Add it all up and Dillon can win…or so the popular Dillon version of popular wisdom goes.

Not so fast.

Pollster Bernie Porn from EPIC-MRA offers a different take: if Dillon gets in, it actually helps Cherry solidify the nomination.

Porn figures most of organized labor is with Cherry, and it provides “boots on the ground” to get out the vote and raise money. “Dillon has no boots.”

Next, that 54 percent undecided is a sizable chunk. In theory, if Dillon took his current 6-percent support and captured about 40 percent of those on the fence, he wins.

However, Porn reports the bulk of those undecided Ds favored a tax increase to balance the books. Dillon did, too, but he never got it in the budget “deal” he cooked up with former buddy Mike Bishop, the headstrong, anti-tax-at-any-cost leader of the GOP Senate.

If Dillon runs, Porn figures, Cherry will have commercials denouncing Dillon for being foolish to make a deal with the GOP devil.

“Dillon made a bad deal. I think he is most vulnerable just in terms of how he tried to portray himself as a leader. Cherry will be able to point out how he made a bad deal,” which, according to Porn, “doesn’t make Dillon a leader.”

Not only can Cherry bang Dillon for making a bone-headed move, he can argue Dillon was told this would happen, but he did it anyway. So not only was it a lousy deal, it was one Dillon could have avoided.

Plus Porn says this kind of argument could move undecided folks into the Cherry camp and even allow Cherry to put badly needed distance between himself and Gov. Granholm, who, despite her opinion to the contrary, is a huge drag on Cherry’s bid.

Having said that, Dillon’s ace in the hole is the mood out there. It is angry, it is anti-incumbent, it is anti-anything that even looks like a life-long politician. It is eager for change.

Dillon has strong appeal to independent voters, as he proved he could take on special interests in his own party when he was strongly advised by his political inner circle not to do it. He did it anyway.

Dillon could effectively contrast his independence with that of Cherry, who has carried the water for labor without spilling a drop. Plus, he can hammer home the point that Cherry can’t win because of Granholm. That notion scares Democrats.

But Cherry’s gang is confident that Dillon can’t secure enough independents and moderate Republicans to cross over into a Democratic primary to win.

The speaker makes his decision about all this in January.

Tim Skubick is Michigan’s Senior Capitol correspondent and has anchored the weekly public TV series “Off the Record” since 1972. He also covers the Capitol and politics for WLNS-TV6 in Lansing.

Tim Skubick Extra Extra… (A weekly bonus only for Dome readers)

Pay to Play
There’s a little fussin’ and feudin’ unceremoniously unfolding in the state GOP concerning so-called Pay to Play Straw Polls.

Here’s how that nifty little game works. A candidate running for office tries to influence the outcome of a straw poll by making sure his or her supporters show up to vote. And to make sure they do appear, financial considerations sometimes come into play — which amounts to backdoor pay.

For example, GOP candidate for governor Rick Snyder won a straw poll by offering free transportation, room and board, and other considerations for those who agreed to vote for him.

Attorney general candidate Bill Schuette recently defeated his GOP challenger, Sen. Mike Bishop, 360 to 247 in another straw poll, which prompted the Oakland County senator to not only denounce the poll but promise to stop participating in future polls.

Then secretary of state candidate Anne Norlander, the Calhoun County clerk, issued a self-righteous news release blasting the “Pay to Play” concept as a “fundraising activity [that] goes counter to everything I believe in [and] I can no longer participate in ‘Pay to Play’ voting fundraisers.”

And, in case you missed her indignation, she tacked on: “this is counter to one person one vote and defies everything we believe in as Republicans” concerning the “integrity of the ballot.”

She called on other Republicans to join her in renouncing the process. It’s likely that the statewide candidates who don’t have a ton of money to spread around will join her, and the ones who do have a ton won’t.

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4 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Gordie // Dec 11, 2009 at 9:19 am

    “Having said that, Dillon’s ace in the hole is the mood out there. It is angry, it is anti-incumbent, it is anti-anything that even looks like a life-long politician. It is eager for change.”

    Does this make an opening for Hoekstra?

  • 2 Jim Brazier // Dec 11, 2009 at 9:40 am

    Dillon made a deal with Bishop that was not carried out by Bishop. GOP word on budget deals is worthless except for the tiresome cry of no more taxes. What Bishop did was despicable and what Dillon did was foolish. It committed House Democrats without a corresponding commitment from Senate Republicans. So, Bishop and Senate Republicans are now more than ever responsible for the political stalemate over the state budget. The Republican charge that there is fat that can be cut in the state budget is shameless demagoguery. Michigan has been in budget cutting mode for five years prior to this year. And it did not help that Engler set up an eventual repeal of the Single Business Tax.

    The only budget cuts will have to come at the cost of far greater misery to the “have nots” in Michigan. Protecting the “haves” from tax increases during a time of an increases in the “have not” population is the role of “Scrooges.” It is socially irresponsible.

  • 3 Sylvias McCollough // Dec 11, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    Regarding your take on the Cherry/Dillion possibility; it seems we’ve seen enough of what inexperienced public office holders can generate, and a fine mess they have gotten Michigan into! Granted, a lot has gone wrong; we’ve allowed our manufacturing base to be outsourced, then wonder why people are loosing their homes, etc. We have a ridiculous war going on that takes billions a month to fund, when those tax dollars should be helping American’s at home, and we’ve finally realized the corruption on WallStreet is “killing” our Country. So anyone who is crazy enough to run for political office today should be given a hero’s award!

    John Cherry is a dedicated politician, and I, for one, having experienced up close and personal the political process on a lot of major levels, am more than ready for someone with experience, guts, and the political savvy to make things begin to work in Lansing! We need a Leader who understands the reality of the issues, and has the experience necessary to fix them! Not a lot of those folks left standing these days, and when we are lucky enough to have someone like that in office, we should thank our lucky stars and stop spouting the same old BS that the pundits put out there; people who don’t have a clue to what the average person is facing today. I don’t think Voters want a “change” but what they want is a candidate who understands what the hell is going on today, and has the guts to do something about it!

    We’ve had enough of the syrup and sugar, now it’s time for some old fashioned politics! It’s time for someone with EXPERIENCE! John Cherry fills that bill! Democrats need to stop carping, and look beyond the tree’s…there is a Forest at the end of the road. Unless the Democratic Party want’s to see things go from Awful To Even More Awful, then just keep sitting on the fence…..that will certainly help guarantee a sure loss in the General.

    Cherry has the Job experience, political savvy, common sense, and integrity to do what needs to be done; he at least acknowledge’s the problems that Michigan has, instead of trying to solve them by “group hugs” John will fight for what’s right, for all concerned! Cherry has the moxie to get things done, something we’ve been lacking for a long time. Go Cherry!

  • 4 Dan Wholihan // Dec 23, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    I don’ t think Andy Dillon is that strong of a leader, nor understand how Dillon supposedly has all that appeal. I actually think Cherry’s a stronger candidate (and would have been stronger than Granholm in 2002). Both supported tax increases. Cherry however at least has the union support. Dillon wants to portray himself as an outsider, but what is six years as speaker anything but an insider himself.

    As far as pay to play goes, that’s nothing new with straw polls in fundraisers. Get the supporters to show up, vote, and have a good press release about it later. It’s good for quick momentum, if it can be sustained.

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